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Halo all.
Got a feeling I might get me head shot off on this one but I'm gonna do it anyway. For the last couple of weekends out I’ve been using the old faithful issue hexi burner for making brews and cooking food. I’ve used hexi from various sources; the Webtex ‘Light my Fire’ variety, the Highlander labelled fuel and the MOD issue stuff. Don’t get me wrong; I’ve not gone hungry or brewless but the old burner soon starts to get battered and distorted. It’s a practical bit of kit and ultimately cheap to manufacture and easily replaceable, both as a piece of Service issue gear and as a commonly used cooking unit. I bought one of the Swedish Army Trangias a long while ago but didn’t get round to having a really good practice with it. I’ve had a few brews and various eats but I will admit that I’ve been put off by the long boil times etc, and the weight of the unit; but today I decided to give the old bugger a proper try. AT THIS POINT: To the mods: If this is of no use, been done before and just going over dead old ground; please delete or remove thread if appropriate. Happy with that; and won’t throw the toys out. Test as follows: Kit used was a standard Swedish Army Trangia. I’ve got the green painted aluminium type. I had poked the holes through on the burner with a needle a few days ago. All the pieces used are standard and unmodified. I made a simple, close fitting aluminium lid for this a while ago to make using the pot suspended over a fire easier; but as this wouldn’t come with the kit as bought I left it out. The lid used was the small pan supplied upside down; which is a snug, but not tight fit. Fuel is the Decorators Meths from my local Wilkinson. Water was at outside temperature and measured as 0.5 ltr/500ml. Ignition was from a Turboflame lighter. Test conducted outside but sheltered. Rather than fill the burner; I opted to try less is more and only filled the unit to just above the small gaps that allow the fuel to get to the wicking material. With a little trial and error this was eventually measured at 40ml. As a field measurement; this would be approx 6mm off the bottom. NB this is a ‘settled’ measurement after the wicking material has soaked. Measured as a straight pour this is approx 15 but no more than 20mm off the bottom and allowed to settle. Ignition from the lighter and the stopwatch started I noted the following timings. As I was on my own there will be slight miss timing as I’m not a bloomin’ Octopus. · Ignition to ‘prime’; as in all burner holes giving flame · Prime to good solid boil · Prime to loss of prime · Ignition to burnout By the accurate measure of 40ml of fuel; the timings were as follows: · 1m 30s · 8m · 16m 30s · 18m 40s By judged measure only: First attempt: · 3m · 9m · 22m · 24m Second attempt: · 2m · 8m · 16m · 18m Conclusions 1) I’ve got WAY too much time on my hands 2) With this method, and using this kit; I believe I can consistently get boil times of between 10 and 13 minutes. 3) IMHO it’s a more efficient use of fuel 4) Sooting of the pan was minimal 5) As a complete unit; it’s bomb proof. In addition I can use the kit suspended over a fire and on a fire grill 6) Maybe there’s life in this old bit of kit yet At the end of the day this wasn’t a field test. That’s where it’ll either prove its mustard or be found wanting. I have a feeling, and I have been looking at other cooking set ups with interest; that this’ll do for me. Not the lightest, definitely not the latest bit of kit; but I’m going to crack on with it as a personal choice. I’m just bloomin’ stubborn sometimes. Cheers all. Ta for reading.
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I personally don't think much of them, but I'm very critical of cooking systems as I'm a stove collector.
However they are OK, cheap to buy etc and you will improve performance a lot by insulating the burner from the ground especially in winter camps. Cold ground really slows up these burners, all you need is something like a couple of twigs or better still a thick piece or two of cardboard which pack easily into the kit to see a faster boil. Good review by the way. |
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Cheers for the comments, and the advice
. I'll try that. Thanks for reading.
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Nice one Neil
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Cheers Bernie
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Great review!
I sold mine after using it a few times. I could never get on with it really, with the pot sticking to the base sometimes when I tried to lift it off, and the overall weight/bulk. I think it's a safe bet, reliable and solid. Oh and cheap. But I got a Honey Stove recently and a Tatonka burner... which are probably none of the above, but they are cool.
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As a solid dont go wrong bit of cooking kit you cant go wrong for a tenner, plus you can use the pots over the fire too, if your worried about the burner a spare takes up next to no room in your sack incase, the only down side is they are a tad bulky, nice one buddy, no one gets shot down in flames here mate, its a forum to post on, and even if a subject is re posted theres always a different take from some one new
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Cheers JP
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One trick I use to keep the soot to a minimum when primed put a very small amount of water in works a treat.
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I don't use the cooker part much any more, but the billies are good robust bits of kit. They work fine over a fire and are very good nestled into the embers on the lee side of the wind, the large surface area catches the heat well and boils water quickly enough for my needs. For ten quid, I'd opt for the full cook set over a Zebra billy if I was starting out, no contest.
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