Swedish Army Trangia

[dodger]

Originally Posted by rik_uk3

A pump does make a big difference with the 8, but just spill a little denatured alcohol/meths in the base of the tin to heat the tank and it will run fine and a windshield is a must as with any stove really. The 8's big brother the 111 range will operate in any temperature.

True, but if we have to use so much methanol to preheat the petrol , we might as well just use the methanol in a Swedish Army Trangia and leave the Optimus at home .

[dodger]

Originally Posted by rik_uk3

Trangia sell a pre heat dish for under the burner to get it up to full output fast. You won't melt lots of snow in the Army or civvie Trangia's quickly, but the civvie Trangia's can at least easily mount a multifuel burner and combined with the great wind shield design give you a fantastic winter stove that is controllable and melts snow very fast.

I don't know if the preheat dish will fit uder a Swedish Army Trangia .You could use a shallow dish or some aluminium foil to do the same thing though .

My little unscientific experiment proved that it's not really necessary .

Wrapping the whole caboodle in aluminium foil would also help retain the heat around the pot .The windshield is not ideal because it has the cutouts for the handle etc.

This thread is about the Swedish Army Trangia , I have 2 ,one Stainless Steel and one Aluminium .
Total cost less than $30 .[For TWO !]

Your comments about a civilian Trangia and converting it with a gasoline burner , although interesting ,are not relevent to this thread which is devoted to the Army Trangia and furthermore for the following reasons :
Cost of civvie Trangia - Large $82, Small $75
Cost of Optimus Nova - $138
All prices are from Mountain Equipment Coop ,which is usually the cheapest in Canada .
So total outlay would be about $220.
Am I gonna shell out this kind of money for the dubious pleasure of boiling water in half the time?
I don't think so !

Most food is cooked by simmering which the SAT does very well.

[dodger]

OK ,nerdy anorak time !

I tried a test of my brand new civvy Trangia burner against a new [but old stock ] military burner .

Using aluminium Mess kit billy and pot without lids .
Experiment repeated and results were identical whether using pot or billy .

Boil times [500 ml water ]

Civvy 7.5 minutes
Military 8.5 minutes .

Temp [indoors 16c ] and altitude 2200 ft .

So there you have it !

[I can't believe I just did that , must be cabin fever ]

[gunnerB]

so you don't want to have your fuel in your pockets or even the burner! well get some reusable hand warmers. stick a couple around the fuel and burner keep them wrapped in a good bit of foil,around 15 Min's before you intend to use the stove crack the warmers, you then have warm fuel and burner.

making your brew,just boil a bit more water to re activity the warmers.

[MrEd]

although i now only take my swedish trangia camping when using the car lol, i use the bottle out of it for meths with my tatonka set up, fits neat in my bag or pocket and i could put it in my pocket 15mins before i want a brew. some people leak but mine doesnt. I just pre-heat the trangia body aswell by spilling some fuel in the lip and lighting that

as for boil test, when it was snowing i went outside and tried mine, 400mls of water in an alu cup on the tatonka burner with 50mls of fuel and it took 14mins to get the water boiling. swedish original burner took 18mins. it was about 5 below though. i have since fashioned a wind break for it to help with eeping the flame on the bottom of the pan

NB* i insulated the burners from the ground using a stand

[ultimate bushcraft]

Hi, we have a trangia and it is a great bit of kit, quick and easy. Does what it says on the tin as the saying goes. but it does have one little niggle, if thats what you would call it, which is obvious from the postings you have recieved, to which we wouldn'd argue with as we have had similar problems.
So after a little thought and playing around, we came up with an alternative to the meths burner you get with the trangia.
We used a small can of methanol/ehtanol gel fuel.
It is of similar size to the meths burner and similar weight, it creates less sooty deposits and gives of more heat, which means you get to have a good hot brew sooner....... give it a go, we think you might like it. We do and prefer it.
Oh and you don't have that problem of your tin contents tasting or smelling of meths.
Hope this is of some help to you and others who use this popular piece of kit.
Martin & Adrian (ultimate bushcraft)

P.s. We came accross a guy recently who is working on a new little camp stove and what he has told us about it sounds really interestig, so when we find out more we'll post it on here and put it on a little site that we're trying to build as well.
Cheers for now.
http://www.ultimate-bushcraft.com