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siberianfury
04-10-2009, 17:57
Hi guys,
this is a film i shot today with a freind when we went out hunting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQ9oETCYUw
the phesant was wild and belonged to no one. there are no game shoots around here. i decided not to post this on BCUK s i dont want to have a big argument like i did on the last post there.
hope you enjoy
ATB
Josh
Nice one Josh. :thumbsup:
I never bother plucking pheasant, just a quick snip and you can peel the skin off. Another quick prep method is if you stand on the two wings, grab the bird by the legs and PULL, the bird should come away in two parts, the bottom part can then just be discarded along with all the entrails. :banana: JP showed me that one. \\:D/
Deerhunter
04-10-2009, 18:25
Excellent!
lol you made a bit of a mess with the prep if im honest, but nice kill, also, you need to be more careful with your knife, plucking a bird with an open knife in your hand like that was ganging for a gash lol!!
siberianfury
04-10-2009, 21:30
i need to learn some new bird prep techniques, im just not used to dealing with them.
phesants belong to whos ever land they are on :wink: wild or not :biggrin:
siberianfury
04-10-2009, 21:33
phesants belong to whos ever land they are on :wink: wild or not :biggrin:
true, as with all game,
i have written permison from the land owner to shoot certain species on his land, phesants are on that list, so i guess its ok.
cheers
josh
true, as with all game,
i have written permison from the land owner to shoot certain species on his land, phesants are on that list, so i guess its ok.
cheers
josh
yep we are in season now and i think the Game licence requirment was removed some years ago and air rifle is fine for em regardless of what the Scatter gunners say :lmao:
thou we used to use a brick or a stick when i was a kid :rolleyes:
ATB
Duncan
siberianfury
04-10-2009, 21:46
:lmao:
thou we used to use a brick or a stick when i was a kid :rolleyes:
ATB
Duncan
i used to try that one when i was younger, going round the woods with bows and arrows trying to catch rabbits and phesants.
the only way i could catch them was to run up to them and knock them down with a big stick.
ATB
Josh
I would love to see you run after one and successfully hit it with a stick
I dont understand why you plucked it when you were going to skin it, or why you wasted the rest of the carcas try not chopping at the wings cut through the joints.When you threw the head away you wasted the neck and you looked a bit scared of the meat.Even in a non survival situation a pheasant is only just enough.
Because he's a young un Darren and he's learning thru his own mistakes :wink: and id guess that was the first hes done if not one of few, some have had the luck and fortune of being taught by the god ol boys in the field to help us on the way as well as experimenting with game, once its been cleanly killed then its meat for the pot ive seen some right messes when it comes to game prep and thats from people who claim to know the score :rolleyes: as i bet you have too lol :biggrin: Is up to us Darren to give people the benifit of experience through forums such as this, i bet you have dealt with more bunnies and other fur and feather than most have had hot dinners, I admire your enthusiasm Josh and with some sound advice from folks such as Darren etc you will become a first class Hunter and Buschrafter quickly :thumbsup:
In a survival situation you have all the time in the world, your game can be prepped with methods that will conserve every calorie, birds plucked and boiled up in a pot (if you have one) or cooked whole over the fire and everything eaten head to feet, bones cracked and sucked of all the marrow same as things such as rabbits thrown on the fire and cooked whole fur singed off and scraped with flint or knife then everything eaten including the lights and brain, every morsel counts in this case, ive seen Abbos (bush mechanics) throw a whole Roo on a fire cut off the cooked bits then thrown back on to the bonnet once fed and driven to the next camp site, nothings wasted they live survival day to day its their life.
Now the Game season is here ill do some vids on game prep (when i get time to scratch me ass!!:rolleyes:) its good to swap ideas and techniques, thats why this forum exsists eh!! :biggrin: \\:D/ :thumbsup:
Nice one JOSH Great enthusiasm.
Nice one JP. Get yer arse in gear...Lol.
Davey569
05-10-2009, 09:28
Good to see another young hunter Josh. Good job! :thumbsup:
Cant waint to see these vids myself JP, my game prep isnt the best either. I just get feathers everywhere! :o
I accept hes a young un , but why do a commentary as if hes the teacher, "next I will show you how to prep the bird" springs to mind , maybe a simple heres how I prep the bird any advice welcome, and maybe curb the embellishments ie running through the woods hitting rabbits and pheasants with sticks!Come on who believed that one?
Josh enthusiam is great but dont run before you can walk.
As far as I am concerned, he is walking te walk. He is out there doing the do, making footage of how he does things and that's good enough for me. Plenty of people can sit at home on their PC and say "That's not how you do it" and I think that's wrong, instead of telling him that is the wrong way, show him the right way. Go out, make a video and get it posted up. There are loads of ways of skinning a rabbit, I've never seen a single person skin a rabbit the same way as somebody else. Everybody has their own way that works for them, some clip the legs off before skinning, some chop them off with a small hatchet or use the spine of the knife to break the bone. I personally dislocate and twist the legs until they pop off, this also alleviates the problem of poodle foot that so many people who have skinned a few rabbits will know about. Poodle foot and the dislocating method were shown to me on the WSS course I went on earlier this year, it works best IMO.
Davey569
05-10-2009, 11:26
Poodle foot spam? Ive done a few rabbits but never heard of this. I just chop off the hands and feet and take it off like a coat. :)
Sometimes, you get a little bit of fur on the stump. Looks like a poodles' foot!
So where is the meal? :)
Cool video and its good that you show "your way" of dealing with the kill.
Bloody starving now cheers!
As far as I am concerned, he is walking te walk. He is out there doing the do, making footage of how he does things and that's good enough for me. Plenty of people can sit at home on their PC and say "That's not how you do it" and I think that's wrong, instead of telling him that is the wrong way, show him the right way. Go out, make a video and get it posted up. There are loads of ways of skinning a rabbit, I've never seen a single person skin a rabbit the same way as somebody else. Everybody has their own way that works for them, some clip the legs off before skinning, some chop them off with a small hatchet or use the spine of the knife to break the bone. I personally dislocate and twist the legs until they pop off, this also alleviates the problem of poodle foot that so many people who have skinned a few rabbits will know about. Poodle foot and the dislocating method were shown to me on the WSS course I went on earlier this year, it works best IMO.
dont worry about me its been written about in the press:thumbsup:that occassion wasnt quite survival but it was for me and the dog to last 8 weeks on £10 and get from Kingslynn to Scrabster the most northerly point on the mainland.
if you want people to learn then dont bull them up for doing it wrong
Next Pheasant you get, try this way, its easy and clean
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=598871754733
remember to pull slowly :wink:
Being a 'young un' has nothing to do with it, you shouldnt reallyt teach a craft like tht unless your an artisan, but i guess if he knew no better, also its youtube, anyone who takes every video seriously on youtube needs to sort the selves out, siberian just needs to do alot more reading and go on a few courses or make a good friend ;)
dont worry about me its been written about in the press:thumbsup:that occassion wasnt quite survival but it was for me and the dog to last 8 weeks on £10 and get from Kingslynn to Scrabster the most northerly point on the mainland.
if you want people to learn then dont bull them up for doing it wrong
What's wrong about it? he shot the bird and got meat off of it to eat. As far as I am concerned he did nothing wrong, just different. No need to get all Pashuti about it!
of course if you want people to take it as the way to do it then there was nothing wrong with it, he made the video in the style of a teaching aid, btw he didnt get the meat of it , he got part of 2 breasts of it.
He invited people to look at it so he should expect feed back, the only reason I looked was because of the very misleading statement in his post about the pheasant belonging to no one
Cougar well said
of course if you want people to take it as the way to do it then there was nothing wrong with it, he made the video in the style of a teaching aid, btw he didnt get the meat of it , he got part of 2 breasts of it.
Cougar well said
So, he got meat off of it then? I think you're being a bit pedantic to be honest. He's a guy finding his way in the world, he has lots to learn but he knows loads more than others his own age.
The only man who makes no mistakes is the man who never does anything, or so said Theodore Roosevelt. He had a point, even if Josh has done something wrong, he has learnt that his way isn't the best and he will be better prepared fro next time. By watching a few videos, or being shown in person and then going out and having a go with a bit of encouragement, he'll make a better job of it next time. I don't know what you are getting out of running an 18 year old lad down instead of trying to encourage him and point him in the right direction. Just because you know it all doesn't mean he does. By giving him grief you just come across like a bit of a **** and nobody will take much notice of you will they? Try encouraging the lad instead, getting all Pashuti about things isn't big and it certainly ain't clever.
if you dont know then dont try to educate, show what you know and be humble enough to ask for help,
“The most valuable thing you can make is a mistake - you can't learn anything from being perfect.”
;)
ok fine I am wrong , go ahead make educational films that are wrong btw I would be wary of anyone who glorifies hitler (ref yr smilie)
may be this place isnt for me, as I dont believe its fine for people to teach wrongly
Youtube is heaving with bushcraft legends in their own lunch times, its nice to see people just bimbling about doing what they do best or just showing what things they are up to, and some do documentary type vid's, you have to be carefull putting your self up as an instant expert, by doing this if you really dont know 100% what your doing as you are leaving your self open for critisism, if you dont know or you have an idea but are not sure say your not quite sure, humility is a good thing to have in this game, there are no experts we are always learning and you should always show your mistakes, its learning from those mistakes and improving and building on your skills thats key.
Keep going Josh, keep taking on board all the critisisms and the praise, its all good ;)
Bernie Garland
05-10-2009, 13:20
Have i accidentally logged onto BCuK :bernie::biggrin::)
Bernie
if you dont know then dont try to educate, show what you know and be humble enough to ask for help,
ok fine I am wrong , go ahead make educational films that are wrong btw I would be wary of anyone who glorifies hitler (ref yr smilie)
may be this place isnt for me, as I dont believe its fine for people to teach wrongly
I make you right, and I also make Spam right too, Its all a learning curve encouragement and education from the initiated on here is key, Ok its his style and parts are not 100% ,yet, but Spam and Darren and the others that are good in the field its the skills you posess that need passing down to guys like Josh so he can do the same, thats what this and other forums of this kind are here for, to educate not to belittle or humiliate.
Have i accidentally logged onto BCuK :bernie::biggrin::)
Bernie
:rolleyes: :bowler: :finga:
ok fine I am wrong , go ahead make educational films that are wrong btw I would be wary of anyone who glorifies hitler (ref yr smilie)
may be this place isnt for me, as I dont believe its fine for people to teach wrongly
I don't glorify Hitler at all. It's an in joke that many people here get, you don't but you've just jumped to a conclusion. As I said before though, the man who makes no mistakes is the man who does nothing, you just made a mistake so maybe I'm completely wrong about you!
Regardless, what I have in my sig line has nothing to do with the issue here, and that is running a guy down and yet not taking the time to put him right with a bit of tact. Instead of giving him grief, tell him or show him the right way. It's easy, knowledge and skills are shared unless you like to feel superior to others, and they are the sort of people I like to avoid.
Instead of giving him grief, tell him or show him the right way.
And I thought thats what forums were all about :rolleyes: , Josh has already took a knock elseware lets give him the benifit of our experience and the encoragement he deserves for going and doing instead of arm'chairing it
And I thought thats what forums were all about :rolleyes: , Josh has already took a knock elseware lets give him the benifit of our experience and the encoragement he deserves for going and doing instead of arm'chairing it
I totally agree. Bernies' pigeon crowning vids are exactly what I am talking about. If anybody is in doubt as to how to do it then thay can watch that video and have a better idea next time. I'm all for people trying things out and finding out the hard way, but they should be encouraged and not run down.
I totally agree. Bernies' pigeon crowning vids are exactly what I am talking about. If anybody is in doubt as to how to do it then thay can watch that video and have a better idea next time. I'm all for people trying things out and finding out the hard way, but they should be encouraged and not run down.
Make you right, whats the point of having all the knowledge and experience and not sharing it, its all our duty to pass on our knowledge to people with the same interests as us, we all have stuff to learn, any info on hunting etc always goes down well eh :wink:
Bernie Garland
05-10-2009, 14:34
any info on hunting etc always goes down well eh :wink:
It seems to here,other places don't seem to like it :bernie::biggrin::thumbsup:
Bernie
:o There are OTHER PLACES!!!! :o :o :bernie: lol :wink:
Funny that, my old man first took me fishing when I was five and I think I got my first air rifle when I was about eight. The old man, me and my brother used to go shooting when ever we could get out of the house, the whole family ate what we shot, it was a family affair, so whats not family friendly about getting and prepping your own food ?
PC madness, if it dont come shrink wrapped on a polystyrene plate then its not acceptable ? odd init.
Christ on a bike!!! How quickly has this thread taken a nosedive?
Now everyone , Big breath in. And count to 10...
1 ,
Relaxing Thoughts...
2,
My mind is calm..
3,
I am at peace with the world...
4,
The world is at peace with me.
5,
People are different...
6,
Difference is variety
7,
Variety is good
8,
I am a person... So i am good.
9,
They are a person ...so they are good.
10.
And breath out.
Everyone happy and serene?? good and off down the pub.
Thats better isn't it.?
:)
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 15:12
I accept hes a young un , but why do a commentary as if hes the teacher, "next I will show you how to prep the bird" springs to mind ,
darren, im not trying to be a teacher, im just having a bit of fun and trying to learn new skills, i dont claim to be st. ray mears.
Bernie Garland
05-10-2009, 15:16
Funny that, my old man first took me fishing when I was five and I think I got my first air rifle when I was about eight. The old man, me and my brother used to go shooting when ever we could get out of the house, the whole family ate what we shot, it was a family affair, so whats not family friendly about getting and prepping your own food ?
PC madness, if it dont come shrink wrapped on a polystyrene plate then its not acceptable ? odd init.
Thats what the goverments doing,trying to make us all totally reliant on them for everything,well it won't be happening here :wink::thumbsup:
Bernie
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 15:20
Being a 'young un' has nothing to do with it, you shouldnt reallyt teach a craft like tht unless your an artisan, but i guess if he knew no better, also its youtube, anyone who takes every video seriously on youtube needs to sort the selves out, siberian just needs to do alot more reading and go on a few courses or make a good friend ;)
my bird dressing is poor because ive never been shown a better method frst hand, ive never been able to afford or had the time to take part in any decent courses unfortuntly. most of the stuff i do is self taught, and right now im learning from my mistakes. that was the first phesasnt ive dressed and i know i wasted a fair bit of meat, i just need more experience. im not too bad at rabbits because thats what im used to.
i plucked the birds chest because i dont like getting downy feathers all over the meat.
sorry if i presented the video like a teacher, i realy didnt have that much time to plan it, i just took my camera out hunting with a mate, all thorugh the video im thinking it up as i go.
sorry if its not a very good method, did explain that in the film.
Cheers
Josh
lol i wasnt critising but summarising both sides ;)
Andy2112
05-10-2009, 15:26
Good on ya Josh, you can only get better mate. :thumbsup::biggrin: At least you're doing something constructive with your time, not menacing folk like the youngsters do round by me. :biggrin: Fair play to you, and to quote, "practice makes perfect". :biggrin: Keep battling on bud.
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 15:27
lol i wasnt critising but summarising both sides ;)
dont worry mate, i know.
just saying, im sorry how the film my have come out, i had no preperation at all, i was just given an oppertunity to make a short hunting film. no ones ever showed me how to prep a bird, so i just went from what ive seen in books.
ATB
Josh
Well, you didn't make a total mess of it, so I think that's a result. You'll do better next time. So long as you had meat to cook, then there isn't really an issue and the fox will have cleared up what you left so you did him a service too!
If you dig about on youtube, there are various ways of doing pheasant such as standing on the wings and pulling the feet, etc. Basically, I do it how Bernie showed me and that is to chop the wings off tight in to the joint at the breast, feet off too. Head off and crop out, peel the bird so the feathers come off in one go, then ram a knife up its vent to enable you to get your fingers in and pull the entrails out. Give it a wash and then when it is clean bung it in the oven in a sealed clay casserole dish or similar with a bit of butter and streaky bacon over it to stop it drying out. I cook it slightly lower than chicken and for about ten minutes less, then I take it out of the oven and rest it on top of the stove in the casserole dish until it is time to serve it up. The heat stays in the pot and the bird continues to cook so doesn't dry out.
Bernie Garland
05-10-2009, 15:34
Here you go Josh,this is how i do it Mate :thumbsup:
Bernie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FuWpwoTBqo
Hey Josh, everyone on here has had to learn stuff, either by being taught first hand, books , film, whatever.
First time I prepped a rabbit or filleted a fish I guarentee I made a mess of it but you learn as you go on.
There's plenty of people who will help you learn to dress game, from people on here to decent butchers and fishmongers, the decent ones are always willing to show you how.
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 15:40
Here you go Josh,this is how i do it Mate :thumbsup:
Bernie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FuWpwoTBqo
thats amazing bernie, ill be sure to use that next time, ill add that to my favorites.
Here you go Josh,this is how i do it Mate :thumbsup:
Bernie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FuWpwoTBqo
I came across that video before, it's got to be the most simple way of getting the bird ready for cooking. There really isn't much on the legs, even less on the wings, but you can certainly use them for a stock if you want.
my bird dressing is poor because ive never been shown a better method frst hand, ive never been able to afford or had the time to take part in any decent courses unfortuntly. most of the stuff i do is self taught, and right now im learning from my mistakes. that was the first phesasnt ive dressed and i know i wasted a fair bit of meat, i just need more experience. im not too bad at rabbits because thats what im used to.
i plucked the birds chest because i dont like getting downy feathers all over the meat.
sorry if i presented the video like a teacher, i realy didnt have that much time to plan it, i just took my camera out hunting with a mate, all thorugh the video im thinking it up as i go.
sorry if its not a very good method, did explain that in the film.
Cheers
Josh
Bloody good on you Josh, at least you have the nad's to admit that :thumbsup: Enjoy your self mate, there are plenty of books and sites on game prep read up and see if theres a local keeper who needs a beater for his shoot, thats a good way of tapping into your local hunting knowledge, you ought to hear all the tales the ol boys come out with in the back of our beaters wagon :rolleyes: but they know the tricks of the trade and the easy way round things and will only be to happy to show someone keen, just be honest with your self theres plenty of people spouting off hot air its always refreshing to see someone hving a go, and taking their time trying skills they have never experienced, and as Darren says show this in your video's.
" A man who makes no mistakes makes nothing "
Watch Mors if he makes a mistake he shows it, then explains why its happened and how he puts it right, thats where Skill and Experience shines through.
Dont look at some of these blokes pretending to be Bushcraft documentary Gurus and copy their style, be your self warts and all and be a leader and not a follower. :wink: :thumbsup:
Bernie Garland
05-10-2009, 15:44
thats amazing bernie, ill be sure to use that next time, ill add that to my favorites.
You only do it that way if you just want the crown,same as pigeon,if you want the whole bird,you just rip the skin off pull away the crop,cut the head and neck off,and chop the legs of with an axe ot machette :thumbsup:
Bernie
Bernie Garland
05-10-2009, 15:50
Heres how to skin a deer with your truck, dont know if you could do it with your ped though :biggrin::thumbsup:
Bernie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_bLHkKOs3M&feature=related
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FuWpwoTBqo)
Heres how to skin a deer with your truck, dont know if you could do it with your ped :biggrin::thumbsup:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FuWpwoTBqo)
PMSL:lmao::lmao:
dont worry mate, i know.
just saying, im sorry how the film my have come out, i had no preperation at all, i was just given an oppertunity to make a short hunting film. no ones ever showed me how to prep a bird, so i just went from what ive seen in books.
ATB
Josh
which book? you only fillet a bird like that'ish if its like pigeon or woodcock size, tell me the isbn and i shall write to the publisher :bernie:
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 16:23
which book? you only fillet a bird like that'ish if its like pigeon or woodcock size, tell me the isbn and i shall write to the publisher :bernie:
the book was written by chris ryan.
The Joker
05-10-2009, 16:31
Josh I think ya did great we all had to start some where and its good to see you've got the balls to youtube it.
Don't let any of the negative comments on this thread put you off (not saying that it would) I think its great your getting out of ya bushcraft armchair and doing it.
There are some top guys on here that'll be more than willing to help you along, like Bernie with those vids and loads of others.
Feel free to ask at any time.
Im looking forward to your next vid now showing your improvements.
Good on ya fella keep it up! :-)
You seem rather forthright in your many opinions Cougar...been round the block a bit have ya? :bowler:
To my mind, in bushcraft there is no right or wrong way of doing things, you may perceive 'your' way to be better, but it's just that, a perception, and what you prefer to do one way, someone will undoutedly do it differently. There seems to be a real underlying arrogance in many bushcrafters I've encountered of people desperate to show how oh-so-skilled they are, and rarely are they willing to be humbled. :rolleyes: In this thread Josh has been nothing like that sort of person, showing an enthusiasm to learn and an eager willingness to accept alternative viewpoints, I'm not quite sure the same can be said for everyone though. :bowler:
the book was written by chris ryan.
:rolleyes: would that be the one where he cuts the sheeps throat .................................... Any way moving swiftly on...................................... Nice one Josh, as scotty says at least you show your true colours unlike some mummy's boy google'ites :thumbsup:
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 16:57
:rolleyes: would that be the one where he cuts the sheeps throat .................................... Any way moving swiftly on...................................... Nice one Josh, as scotty says at least you show your true colours unlike some mummy's boy google'ites :thumbsup:
thats the book, and cheers mate :)
Bernie Garland
05-10-2009, 17:01
at least you show your true colours unlike some mummy's boy google'ites :thumbsup:
The milky bar kid,comes to mind :bernie::biggrin::)
Bernie
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 17:04
The milky bar kid,comes to mind :bernie::biggrin::)
Bernie
the milkybar kid is strong and tough, and only the best is good enough, creamy white, a whiter bar,
THE GOOD TASTE THATS IN MILKY BAR!!
its true
Weekend_Warrior
05-10-2009, 17:41
the milkybar kid is strong and tough, and only the best is good enough, creamy white, a whiter bar,
THE GOOD TASTE THATS IN MILKY BAR!!
its true
Wasn't that a euphemism for something??? :o
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 17:55
yeah, milky bars.
the book was written by chris ryan.
yeh whats the ISBN number or the name of the book?
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 20:06
dunno, i gave it away. i dont realy think its neccesary to complain to the publishers about it. it may not have been the best method, but its a method none the less.
Silverback
05-10-2009, 20:08
Good on ya Josh - you keep going as you are buddy and although I might have T-shirts older than you, it takes a man to admit his weaknesses and that ironically is a strength you should be proud of :thumbsup:
Lol and to clear things up, i was in no case having a go at joshs technique but refering to other peoples comments about his technique, adding the points that to correct there problems with his he should read a long list of books, speak to a long list of people, do a couple of courses and alot of game prep and then he will be a pro ;) i hope my comments were not read the wrong way and i myself are by no means an artisan of any craft, i agree its good to see proactive bushcrafters and beign of very similar age i can quite simpathise with the lack of people about to learn bushcraft with (and is something that really should be learned in groups, passed down in families or tribally!)
And also the difficulty there is in listening to which persons advice and why i commented that he should read a load of books to build up a picture of ideas he can use to help him make his techniques most efficient :), i am constantly learning littel tricks from people who found out a little trick, things you could never learn by doing it a million times or by reading books and hence why i said making good friends (in refernce to ppl you can go out bushcrafting with) and finally some of my best bushcraft times have been on courses which i think everyone interested in bushcraft should cave up there pennies and put it toward a really credible bushcraft course!
sorry again if i am misread, this does actually happen alot, especially when you consider how you can say one thing same words but the way you say it makes it have many meanings, and being a mild dyslexic doesnt help :)
Soz
Coug
siberianfury
05-10-2009, 20:12
Good on ya Josh - you keep going as you are buddy and although I might have T-shirts older than you, it takes a man to admit his weaknesses and that ironically is a strength you should be proud of :thumbsup:
cheers mate, :)
i think life is like that, you learn more from mistakes than anything else, if you start out as "the best" at somthing it just becomes dull and boring.
cheers
Josh
yeh whats the ISBN number or the name of the book?
If your that interested, its not hard to find:rolleyes:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chris-Ryans-Ultimate-Survival-Guide/dp/1844133877/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254773644&sr=8-1
I don't get this picky lark with SF, the young man has gone out and had a go, more than I've ever done and I'm a sexage....sexog....sexa ....in me early sixties, my limit is filleting fish and buryin' rats :biggrin: yer gotta give him credit for tryin', the way he's goin' he'll be better than most.
Like as been iterated, lets see more from the... experts? then, I'm looking forward to it. :wink:
What's wrong about it? he shot the bird and got meat off of it to eat. As far as I am concerned he did nothing wrong, just different. No need to get all Pashuti about it!
Thank you.I fully agree.
Next time though get the address of the farting wonder and send him all of those delicious pheasant necks.:roll:
I'll gladly give you my address.
never mind I must remember then Blammo that if ever I am in a survival situation according to you and spammel I only need part of two breasts the rest can be thrown and wasted.
Make a nice Game soup out of all the scraggy bits or a stock for a Stew, why waste what you have? If you dont need it their and then freeze it till you have enough, I save all my prawn shells and freeze them and make a nice Tom yum soup ;)
Tom Yam hot and sour paste takes some beating, I throw in loads of sea food, bamboo shoots, Japanese noodles, water chestnuts, straw mushrooms and chillies, I reckon add some of yer pheasant and it'd be worth a fortune. :)
I'll gladly give you my address.
never mind I must remember then Blammo that if ever I am in a survival situation according to you and spammel I only need part of two breasts the rest can be thrown and wasted.
Yeah, good luck when you are trapped in a remote part of Britain and need to survive off of a pheasant that you shot with the air rifle you just so happened to have on you! :rolleyes:
:bernie::rolleyes:
Well im glad i didnt have a vidio camera 20yrs ago would have been arrested and locked up till now and plus another 20yrs:o
(we will pull a veil over the Coal dust /Deisel land mine affair :-\")
Now I Do have one I never seem to have the time or inclination to use it :rolleyes: or edit something together (or have anything intersting to Vid in the first place)
at least some people do :thumbsup:
I can still (Just :rolleyes:) remember the frustration etc at 16-18 not really being taken seriously by older people simply because they where older But actually wrong or not as knowlgeble as they thought etc :biggrin:
ATB
Duncan
PS as the one who introduced the stick to Phesant method
its not difficult but dosnt include running :biggrin: and isnt a 100% success rate
:bernie::rolleyes:
Well im glad i didnt have a vidio camera 20yrs ago would have been arrested and locked up till now and plus another 20yrs:o
(we will pull a veil over the Coal dust /Deisel land mine affair :-\")
Now I Do have one I never seem to have the time or inclination to use it :rolleyes: or edit something together (or have anything intersting to Vid in the first place)
at least some people do :thumbsup:
I can still (Just :rolleyes:) remember the frustration etc at 16-18 not really being taken seriously by older people simply because they where older But actually wrong or not as knowlgeble as they thought etc :biggrin:
ATB
Duncan
PS as the one who introduced the stick to Phesant method
its not difficult but dosnt include running :biggrin: and isnt a 100% success rate
Well im glad i didnt have a vidio camera 20yrs ago would have been arrested and locked up till now and plus another 20yrs:o
(we will pull a veil over the Coal dust /Deisel land mine affair :-\")
Nope . I would like an explanantion of that. PM if you must. Reconstruction would be even better.:wink:
I can still (Just :rolleyes:) remember the frustration etc at 16-18 not really being taken seriously by older people simply because they where older But actually wrong or not as knowlgeble as they thought etc
Ahem to that.
Yeah, good luck when you are trapped in a remote part of Britain and need to survive off of a pheasant that you shot with the air rifle you just so happened to have on you! :rolleyes:
dont use an airrifle plus I'm not allowed near one
by the way I know how to stick pheasants on a moonlit night thanks, what I was saying is there is no way he used to run after pheasants and rabbits and actually hit them with a stick he may have ran after them but he definately didnt catch them
And the point I was originaly trying to make was he was setting himself up as an expert as in the vid after shooting it clearly said" I am gonna show YOU how to prep them"
the titles at the end say this pheasant was wild and belonged to no one then says that he has written permission to take game of that land , that in its self is a contridiction
btw I am not gonna bother to reply anymore theres no point I hold my hands up in future when I catch a pheasant I will refer to the video
but before I shut up I will say it was a good head shot because it was
You are commenting on an 18 year old who made a film on the spur of the moment and put it up for to others to see what he has done. It wasn't scripted, it was off the cuff. He has said himself that he can learn from others,
Bushwhacker
06-10-2009, 10:03
There's more than one way to skin a cat (or pheasant).
what I was saying is there is no way he used to run after pheasants and rabbits and actually hit them with a stick he may have ran after them but he definately didnt catch them
Caught a fair few rabbits by running after them and rugby tackling them - must be extra dopey round here and where I grew up.
Grabbbed a few pheasants by the throat as well - including the bugger that pecked up the garden. However a well aimed car door is very good.
i personally think the best way to dispatch game is, like i said in the dog help thread, explosives on dogs, small dogs for rabbits, wippets for hare and birds, and big dogs eg deer and wolf hounds for deer! Im telling you, nothing beats a bit of boom putty strapped to some dogs, even john lofty wiseman says so!!!!! ;););) if you can believe anyrthing he says, i know while we are at it lets use poisonous chemical to purify water:D:D lol
Have you been sniffing puritabs again Cougar? lol
no, i had a sip of oxiaction ;)
Deerhunter
06-10-2009, 17:25
Caught a fair few rabbits by running after them and rugby tackling them - must be extra dopey round here and where I grew up.
Grabbbed a few pheasants by the throat as well - including the bugger that pecked up the garden. However a well aimed car door is very good.
Are you a werewolf then ?
siberianfury
06-10-2009, 17:37
Are you a werewolf then ?
hes a highly evolved predator, with razor sharp wits and reactions.
Just watched your vid Josh and good on ya fella ,at least your out there walking the walk :wink:
hes a highly evolved predator, with razor sharp wits and reactions.
or perhaps not lol :rolleyes: :wink: \\:D/
Are you a werewolf then ?
Nope just dopey rabbits around here - also had plenty of practise chacing the guinea pigs when they escape. They've got a suprising turn of speed when they want.
Just read all of this.. (rained off today..:rolleyes:)
I think Josh did good. At 18 I would not of known what to do with a pheasant and to be honest I probably would not of tried like he did, because I would of been worried about getting something wrong. I would of just shot it for the fun of it and thrown it in a hedge, much to my shame these days..
Its good to see you trying Josh, and as others have said, you had a result. And more than that, you have learnt from the experience.
Keep it up mate..:) Its nice to see you cleanly killed the pheasant too..
I have learnt stuff from this thread. (I did not know about standing on the wings and pulling). Thanks for those links Steve and Bernie..
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